They also look up in the sky to see the comet and get back in. Except for one problem. Or maybe Em-1 was the Emily standing next to the bat, and an Em-Z is the one who went inside the kitchen and got the Ketamine to dose Em-X with. -I act. We can assume all the dinner party variant universes are “closer” and thus the ones the comet allows transfer between OR there are an unshown uncountable number of Em’s who fall into an uncountably many weird universes, but the movie continues on only with the Em’s who do land back in dinner party universes. The call is from Emily. Oh, and also a big part of what made me think EmX is not perfect Em is how her mind isn’t blown up enough when she sees her doppelganger without knowing anything about the comet. If it were the moment they step out the door then she would lose the good universe herself, plus be ensuring it’s not the good universe people coming back. No sense at all! Hi Taylor, For example, when Amir and Hugh first go outside quickly, you can hear Hugh say “Ow”, almost as if he already hit his head then. Following the two threads the director spoke of, in the first we have Em-prime. Coherence is a 2013 low-budget Science Fiction thriller directed by James Ward Byrkit.. On the night a comet is passing near Earth, a dinner party takes an odd turn. As for Bathtub Em, I don’t know or why slightly different Em faints, I’ve got no idea. It can be Perfect Em calling Kevin 1, 2, 3 or 4. In that scene, the happy and clueless reality of the friends all leave the house (except for Emily) for the first time that night, and when they go back in they enter a different house, with a different Emily (One who did not take her doppleganger’s sweater after knocking her out in the car.) Both groups panic and run in different directions. Does it mean, that the incoherence and therefore interaction between realities has created a lasting effect, symboled by the ring. But I digress. I also don’t get how lee and her husband seem to have no thoughts of neighbors. 9:41 – I’m an empath and this door is a vortex Has to be random chance that the same box is opened – even with the blue glow sticks we are at House2. In this reality, they have never had a powercut. Entire crops were lost. We have settled that there could be infinite numbers of possibilities right? It shows Emily to be calling him. They couldn’t walk back into another house with another eight people sitting down since they all went outside and determinism means they have to come back inside to an emtpy house. . But better don’t trust my word on that, we evidently think too much alike :D. Ok I’m way late to this conversation but stumbled across this movie today and after being intrigued by the ending I read that this whole movie was basically improv and that blew my mind more than the movie. Why is Beth still there? Imagine she’s saying ” I’m at the car, where are you?” The two Ems can’t occupy the same physical plane but they she can reach out via phone. Ironically, it will still blow your mind. She meets Kevin near her car and asks if they are okay and Kevin says yes and that Laurie means nothing. Amir mentions that the other house took a picture of him too but that looked different. Check it for yourself: http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=coherence. . The passing comet has caused infinite realities to intertwine. :) I just wish they didn’t leave it with a cliffhanger and tell us what was that big surprise at the end of the movie lol. hahah. I see this as a wonderful illustration of Karma. ludo mentis aciem, The reason that I sent these comments was that I thought the plot that was posted above had some mistakes and I had a different understanding. Em1, Kevin3, Laurie2, lee3, Beth3, mike3” (those were: Em1, Kevin1, Laurie1, Lee2, Beth2, Mike2) This Lee, Amir, Hugh and Beth are a different set from the one they left. All other people inside can be labeled Mike-n for example. Unlike, say, the feature-length rug-pull The Signal, Coherence doesn’t get off on withholding. With regards to the ending and tacking onto Steve’s comment : one more thing to add that I think was not discussed yet. Mike is freaked out because if he’s suggesting that they should kill the people in the other house, his double is plotting the exact same thing. There is a candle with sunglasses and keys. She is in another reality and some other Em who got drugged at some point, an Em Prime 4. This is hinted at by things like not recognizing Mike from Roswell and there even being a happy universe where the power didn’t go out and Em not only said yes to the trip, but is presumably a famous dancer. This movie has me in The World’s Biggest Rabbit Hole lol. “When Em goes into the house it should be: Emily Prime doesn’t know this. You’re right imho that Em1’s cardinal sin is to think she could bruteforce and shortcut her way toward what she wants (or at least what she thinks she wants) rather than taking the difficult road and changing herself, her own mind, by apologizing and dealing with imperfection inside of herself and in her life around her (e.g. In their previous party, when they did mushrooms, Beth puts some in the spaghetti sauce but that was a group decision. Hugh³ says: “My wife?” (Question 2: What are they talking about?) Amir is presently dating Laurie. Hey there Allison, * The part about the woman who – during another comet – killed her husband but yet couldn’t be arrested due to his standing in the kitchen : are we to believe he was the equivalent of ” House 2 husband” and somewhere along the way she did in fact kill someone? And also if you are traveling in a group, you will be transported together. Mike opens the door to find a note at their door. Are we bound by morals and ethics when the universe glitches? Also, she mentions how Hugh’s phone isn’t broken and hence Hugh and Amir are from a different house. Emily Prime explains that this comet Comet a lot closer this time. Totally want this movie to be an undercover Time Travel movie… SO BAD. They come with box that they have picked up from the other house. If you found yourself completely unfettered what would you do? However, she looks guilty instead of confused when the call comes from EmX and she gets the second ring, so this is unlikely. Em1 at this point attacks happy Em at her car, but when she returns to the house, can we be sure it’s the same house, full of the same happy people? Does that even make sense? Hugh disagrees. It’s a call… dun dun dahhhhh. I believe he meant the electricity blackouts which are kind of unexplained. If it isn’t Kevin1 then who is it?!?! I mean, was it the version of her who was attacked and left a warning? The ending of this movie really had me frozen. My only guess is EmX put it on for an entirely different reason, and that is out of happiness. Emily Prime sees her crawling into the bathroom. “*Hugh2 and Kevin1 go to car to get book…” (it was Hugh3, Hugh2 stayed in house1) Mike, Emily Prime, Laurie and Kevin leave and Lee, Amir, Hugh and Beth stay. We do know at one point two Mikes are in the same house, both from when Mike beats up Mike and also when we see two Mikes tied to chairs. I watched Primer recently and it requires MANY views. My husband just keeps saying ” That was the weirdest experience” and refuses to watch it a second time. Here’s what happened. The happiness a seeking Em, after waking up in the bathtub, got the fuck out of there and erased all evidence of her existence (blood in the tub) in order to maintain the purity of that reality (in hope of later getting another shot at ‘disappearing’ the drugged-trunk Em, who thinks of her bathroom fight as a weird ketamine nightmare.). IF EM CAN GO SEEKING HER IDEALIZED REALITY, SO CAN THEY ALL. I’m not sure why there is any debate at this point. If a Hugh believes that the prioritization order is (b) then (a), then you get the basis for most universe iterations in the film where people start roving around and keep being transported to parallel universes. And EmX throws Em1 completely under the bus. Why? Just trust me. Has anyone made a breakthrough or asked the director what it is or if he could please explain how Em’s body in the tub goes missing? But what is the so what? Senjor Byrkit responded. The film ends. Some of these theories blew my mind, such as the multiple Emily theory, which is obviously a thing since they would not have accidentally forgotten that she’s wearing the jacket when she just put it on in the previous scene. It’s Mike’s blackmail note. *Hugh4 and Amir3 steal the book and the photos and leave. If that makes sense. Why is that? She strikes her double with the flush lid and dumps her in the bathtub. Hugh2 and Amir2 “come back” with a box – Hugh cut on head Anyhow, the movie makes a lot more sense if you understand (1) there is an infinite number of parallel universes splitting off at infinite times from infinite perspectives (in other words, a lot, and more than we can comprehend), (2) the theory of decoherence keeps all of these multiple dimensions separate, which are happening all the time and (3) it’s the passing of the comet that causes the “coherence” or the overlapping of the different worlds and outcomes. Hugh brings up the note he writes. There are some problems with your personal ending theory, you can’t send a voicemail to someone without cell service (which they didn’t have during the comet) and usually when you receive a voivemail, you don’t hear the phone ring like if the person was calling you, you just get a notification. I think it’s a testament to your film that all of these dichotomous theories here can all be taken somewhat seriously in their own vacuum. The part about the woman who – during another comet – killed her husband but yet couldn’t be arrested due to his standing in the kitchen : are we to believe he was the equivalent of ” House 2 husband” and somewhere along the way she did in fact kill someone? Hugh says they shouldn’t change any of the events and forbids Mike from stealing their book. like why did you say kevin wants her to move to Paris… the movie states it is Vietnam (laurie’s convo in thenhallwaybwith kevin). I will address these individually before I continue. And the em from other dimension is trapped into the dimension where she never belonged and the main thing if no one would have left the house then everything would have been fine and in there proper dimensions. I think it’s 5038848, and he’s calculating the die rolls for each person, which is 6 to the power of 8, times 3 (either for the three different colors of glowsticks or the 3 different colors of the marker the numbers on the photos are written on). That isn’t what happened. Mike goes nuts, wants to go over to the other house and kill the doubles. I haven’t read the blog in aeons, so I can’t remember. Brilliantly done… I’m gonna go put my brain on ice now. ( P.S.S Did anyone ever see the movie where a bunch of people go slowly mad over a film they’ve seen and they have to gently and kindly kidnap the writer of said movie and require him to sit with them at a viewing and explain it frame by frame? Mike’s statement about having slept with Beth in all realities is wrong. hey Taylor, so i read the whole article, and i agree with many things you say. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery.” But it is this paragraph that I find the true insight. I want to talk about the tone of the group (after Hugh & Amir gets back or after the blue glow stick group gets back) and they start to realize that they are dealing with a different version of themselves. Any person crossing this zone will enter a different reality. James Byrkit’s movie Coherence is definitely one of those movies. Do we know? She couldn’t trust herself to make a bold leap ( no pun intended lol ) and was in that snarled position of being frozen. Does not make a lot of sense to me! And if the Mike in the other house is drinking, then he’s a f$#ked up Mike. She doesn’t cut the pic. Now that I have cleared that up it leaves a lot more room for plausible conjecture as to the outcome of the events that we witnessed. Menu. By the end of the movie, I suspect that we are seeing a peek into the infinite number of possibilities (as well as telling a thought provoking story) and it simply doesn’t matter how you track the different versions of the characters. They go their way and Emily Prime returns to the house. I’ve never heard of that poem before. She has no place in the universe :(. Movies. et velata Yes! I still fall on the side of assuming the cars are supposed to be attached to the house, it opens up even more weirdness and director tricking if the moment they walk out of the house they go to another universe with them walking out exactly the same time. Like for example, The One I Love? When she finds the final couple she knows she has to swap places with her, and take over on that tangent of possibility. I should have been more clear that that could have happened… that the house changed out from under them. and then soothes Note, I have bolded and *red asterisked the moments when someone leaves the house. This discloses that they are not from this house. and virtue, So they use dice. I believe the reason why EmP calls kevin in that exact moment is two-fold. Take a second to support Taylor Holmes on Patreon! That’s what she was doing as she was wandering from house to house trying to find her original fiancé or what have you. We don’t see this version of Hugh and Amir again in the film. I severely doubt her ability to understand what’s what any more than we do. Yes? but the day before at the very start of the movie when she is calling Kevin. Laurie kisses Kevin. Can anyone explain this? The reality that Emily Prime is in now will permanently have 2 Emilys in it. I mean, I saw it. Kettle moves, cheese board appears, salad bowl moves. Produced. What do you think? Both the Em who is left standing at the car and the Em who is calling on the phone, either of them can be one of an infinite possibilities of Ems and wer cannot know, and to try and find out which Em is which is to go down that rabbit hole of infinite storylines. I struggled to keep up on this first viewing so I’m probably well off. And if the second is true, is it just that we keep being shown the new versions of them in the new houses at the same point in figuring things out as they were in the last house? See what I did there. Hugh calculates the number of different combinations possible from the items in their box and it tells the audience there are at least that many millions of possible houses out there, ie Em is not going to be able to trial and error her way home. Thanks for your quick reply. Coherence Film Still - H 2014. Kevin1 tells her that “if it’s not a yes, it will eventually become a no” and that’s exactly what happened. Countless parallel versions of a particular guest explore the permutations arising from the events in their coherent overlapping universes… these events are smeared out across the 12 hour duration. Only in this movie instead of two outcomes there are infinite. And because this is the exact moment Kevin decides to hand over the other ring, Linking the two Ems together. Why then isn’t Kevin at work? "Coherence" is proof that inventive filmmakers can do a lot with a little. Remember, it’s the powercut that makes them head out and wander into the dark zone. Personally think our Em, became the redundant Em. I’m not gonna wait for them to collapse on us.” His reptilian instincts have kicked in and he is now trying to outfox and kill his enemy to survive. Decoherence has been re-established. If Beth stayed we assume they all slept over ( pretty obvious ). Beth3 ping pong paddle (red house) What do you think? and so she goes looking for KevX and finds him outside. Or maybe you could give it another go Aliz? Comments? Perhaps she would have been better off in her own Reality. That said, there are two ways to watch the film. But, it does end with just one copy of every person, THAT MEANS that the whole event was just in their heads, in reality, there were no multiple universes and there were no multiple copies of themselves. It might be worth noting, though, that after Em-1 approaches House-X and is casing it, there are a number of cuts to black as she walks around House-X. She finds a monkey doll inside another box on the street. Hugh and Amir have a private moment and pull out red glow sticks. (Question 5: How?) However, I’ve realized that no one mentioned the numbers written behind the pictures. So technically the house and the people are like the cat. Absolutely awesome film, not long finished watching it and hungry for more. and nobody seemed to acknowledge that? status malus, Can anyone else jump in and help me mentally grapple with this? We have no idea how or why. This movie is brilliant, thanks for the recommendation! But wait. She either survived the attack or someone at the hospital or police station made the call with her phone. Coherence starts with Emily driving and talking to her boyfriend Kevin. Should we short circuit life to jump to that perfect experience, that perfect life? NO SCRIPTS *Kevin2 and Em talk about the day he gave her the ring at the fair. But I would like to take this karmic principle one step further and ask why have the ill intent to begin with? But when Em leaves the room Beth is shown with a new book on the back shelf. From those moments, some houses will emerge with different results, and walking through the dark place will randomly place you in one of those houses. This is to check if they were all hallucinating. Back to Schrodinger’s cat. I have gained all more insight for this movie after you established what we have to consider in regards to the boundaries of space and time of the anomaly and the dark zone and such. The group is intact and hence are having a normal evening. Here goes lol : If the Perfect House people didn’t run into any issues because they stayed put in the house and they also didn’t read the book ( we see Em1 view it in the car ) is this because they retained electricity and cell service? Maybe someone will see this. That’s really all I can say — such are the joys of its quantum physics–fueled plot. She did not collapse onto herself. They could be wrong, but it is the only explanation for the audience as well. Because when Em puts another Em into the trunk, she goes back in the house and she sees another one comming from the bathroom, and she looks at her like “OMG….another one”. Go back to the beginning of the movie. Replies to my comments … : S ), Maybe I should check for typos for clarity.. Mikes shirt is either buttoned all the way up or he has 2 buttons unbuttoned. Let’s say instead of a cat with poison there is a coin instead. Because Emily was missing for a while, they ask Emily Prime where she was (they don’t know a switch has happened). Or was it something she sent him when she was debating even being with the guy. What are your thoughts about this flow and this timeline? but are those the same people? But when that second ring made an appearance followed by the phone call, felt my stomach turn along with hers upon realising it wasn’t a trip. There is a dark zone in the middle. Interview with The Devil All the Time Scribe Paulo Campos!! In any case, this Mike is not the Mike Coherence starts with, he’s a different one. Black holes in real life are basically the same as schrodingers cat. But I realized that my copy of the movie may not be exactly the same as the one Byrkit originally created. *sigh*, Another thought I’m stuck on. BUT, it is impossible to have multiple people, because then they would meet each other (they would get mixed up and land in a wrong universes). Could just be she wanted to find a house that didn’t participate, possibly from realizing that the house that didnt participate has the greatest odds of becoming the true timeline, since it created the least possible paradoxes. Thoughts? It isn’t about which version of a Em or any other character we are observing. The big guy whose brother left the book. I will say this – once you are done reading the interview, make sure you head over to my Coherence explanation and lend your voice to the discussion. Coherence is an amazingly brilliant movie that will completely rattle your cage if you haven’t been rattled already. But this point there was still a couple of things that bothered me – the broken glass and the heavy suggestions that different dimensions were brought into the story (mike/laurie/actor/yoga and suggestion of Em being lead dancer in perfect house), but mainly it was the glass. But if they have no knowledge of the previous night’s events, how does he even compute that? Laurie says that Hugh and Amir were the first to leave and have been acting strange ever since. I believe that other Em’s have descended upon this house with the same end goal. No one realizes this switch As the story unfolds, they begin to realize that the other house is actually another version of theirs. → Em¹ sees the book on the back seat of HughX’s car → KevinX gives her the ring that got lost during the bathroom attack → EmX calls KevinX. I thought it was set up really well, and when I was watching the movie I was on the edge of my seat whenever a character was standing near the door to nowhere. 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